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Bitcoin Plays a Role in Humanitarian Assistance

North Korea has always been notorious for its human rights violations. Recently, the totalitarian dictatorship has been drawing criticism for the assassination of Kim Jong Nam, the estranged half-brother of North Korean leader Kim Jong Un. On March 8th, Cheollima Civil Defense(CCD) released a video on its website claiming:” Han Sol, the son of Kim Jong Nam, and two other family members were met quickly and relocated to safety. “

I browsed its website and found this on its statement:

“If you would like to offer anonymous financial support for our protection efforts, please use the below Bitcoin wallet address, with our deepest thanks:
134ytYQnZVAEVV6YZVfx1NBUGc9GY45FBm”

Out of curiosity, I checked transaction records of the address and found that 24 transactions have been made with 2.7 bitcoins in total within two days.

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Now you might wonder as I do, where are these anonymous donors from?

Could it be China?

The statement released by CCD thanked China for its assistance. Plus, Han Sol had been living in Macau under Beijing’s protection after the family went into exile a several years ago.

Could be Japan?

North Korea fired four ballistic missiles early Monday morning with some landing in waters as close as 300km(190miles) from Japan’s northwest coast. Japanese prime minister Shinzo Abe strongly protested that:

“The launches are clearly in violation of security council resolutions. It is an extremely dangerous action.”

It sounds reasonable that Japanese bitcoin investors would support CCD.

Could it be America who has been imposing sanctions on North Korea?

It could be anyone. We never know.

But does it really matter?

Now with bitcoin, on the one hand, every man and woman of integrity can reach out to others by offering financial support to organizations fighting for human rights, gender equality, LGBT community and justice without worrying about a privacy leak. On the other hand, however, it could also be used for drugs, crimes, terrorism. Does this make bitcoin bad?

COMMENTS(147)

  • Cindy23
    2 months ago Cindy23

    Guess now I can use bitcoin to support Anonymous. And my beloved China will nv find out.

  • BitcoinAllBot
    2 months ago BitcoinAllBot

    Here is the link to the original comment thread. Or you can comment here to start a discussion. Author: 8btccom

  • Amph
    3 weeks ago Amph

    that doesn’t make bitcoin bad, everyone is free to use bitcoin, and you can’t deny them no matter what they are or from where they come from, this is also part of the decentralizationwhat matter is that they don’t see bitcoin as a bad tool only because bad guys are using it, the same terrorists can easily use cash or electronic payment, therefore the problem are terrorist not what they use

  • Dorky
    3 weeks ago Dorky

    Who can verify the news is factual? Or simply made up?I have a member that was the head of a major mafia gang with global network. He managed the financials of this gang and at one time he was responsible to launder as much as 20% of the entire supply of Bitcoin available. It was no easy task. He had to use various means to spread (sort of) the Bitcoin allocation to various investment assets under the radar. Or course some of the means to do so includes using the services of localbitcoins.com and some unknown Bitcoin exchanges. Others include buying Bitcoin tokens from Chinese mining companies using Bitcoin itself. Today the gang has no more Bitcoin left. All successfully laundered into fiat. Do you believe this story? Who can verify as facts?Even I can write fake news.And by the way, did I tell you of a friend that is the step daughter of the ex-Phillipino prime minister? Apparently she is in ownership of some half a ton of pure gold bars.

  • Doofus
    3 weeks ago Doofus

    Quote from: Dorky on April 06, 2017, 05:45:08 AM
    Who can verify the news is factual? Or simply made up?I have a member that was the head of a major mafia gang with global network. He managed the financials of this gang and at one time he was responsible to launder as much as 20% of the entire supply of Bitcoin available. It was no easy task. He had to use various means to spread (sort of) the Bitcoin allocation to various investment assets under the radar. Or course some of the means to do so includes using the services of localbitcoins.com and some unknown Bitcoin exchanges. Others include buying Bitcoin tokens from Chinese mining companies using Bitcoin itself. Today the gang has no more Bitcoin left. All successfully laundered into fiat. Do you believe this story? Who can verify as facts?Even I can write fake news.And by the way, did I tell you of a friend that is the step daughter of the ex-Phillipino prime minister? Apparently she is in ownership of some half a ton of pure gold bars.
    how could u not buy this story? didn’t they release a video on You tube?

  • Dorky
    3 weeks ago Dorky

    Quote from: Doofus on April 06, 2017, 05:49:43 AM
    how could u not buy this story? didn’t they release a video on You tube?

    Yeah, I am willing to buy the story. How much is it?

  • boyptc
    3 weeks ago boyptc

    Quote from: Doofus on April 06, 2017, 05:34:27 AM
    On March 8th, Cheollima Civil Defense(CCD) released a video on its website claiming:” Han Sol, the son of Kim Jong Nam, and two other family members were met quickly and relocated to safety. “ And they receive bitcoin for financial support. This is something nice to do. BUt what if bitcoin be used to support some bad organizations, even terrorists? Is this already happening?

    Do you have any proof for this news? I want to read the whole article but if this is for real. It doesn’t matter if they are going to use bitcoin for supporting terrorists. How about fiat money, dollars and everything that does have value? They are using it for supporting those people and it’s up to them if they will use it for good or bad.

  • Pursuer
    3 weeks ago Pursuer

    Quote from: Doofus on April 06, 2017, 05:34:27 AM
    On March 8th, Cheollima Civil Defense(CCD) released a video on its website claiming:” Han Sol, the son of Kim Jong Nam, and two other family members were met quickly and relocated to safety. “ And they receive bitcoin for financial support. This is something nice to do. BUt what if bitcoin be used to support some bad organizations, even terrorists? Is this already happening?

    throwing in random names doesn’t make the story more believable and no, I assure you that there is no idiot in the whole world that is going to choose bitcoin (with 100% public, open to the whole world transactions) over easy fiat/cash such as using USD which is 100% anonymous, non-traceable and acceptable everywhere in the whole world.p.s. your username seems to be matching the kind of topics you create in this forum.

  • Vivace92
    3 weeks ago Vivace92

    Bitcoin is anonymous so that it can be freely used by anyone including the terrorists, I believe the current terrorist transactions will be redirected to the bitcoin so as to make them are not tracked.

  • NorrisK
    3 weeks ago NorrisK

    They are already using fiat for their financial needs. Bitcoin does not directly enable them to do more. It could make certain transactions easier though, but the same goes for any new technology. Bad people can always use it for their purposes as well. Does this mean we should stop technology development?

  • Wind_FURY
    3 weeks ago Wind_FURY

    OP, believe me, you want that to happen. If you think “mainstream adoption” will take Bitcoin use to another level then you are gravely mistaken. It is the criminal, underworld use of Bitcoin that will take it to new heights in price and technology-wise.

  • Doofus
    3 weeks ago Doofus

    Quote from: NorrisK on April 06, 2017, 08:46:51 AM
    They are already using fiat for their financial needs. Bitcoin does not directly enable them to do more. It could make certain transactions easier though, but the same goes for any new technology. Bad people can always use it for their purposes as well. Does this mean we should stop technology development?
    Here comes the question: if bitcoin be used for evil purposes, will we be able to stop them? And who will lead the effort to stop them?

  • NorrisK
    3 weeks ago NorrisK

    Quote from: Doofus on April 06, 2017, 08:52:24 AM

    Quote from: NorrisK on April 06, 2017, 08:46:51 AM
    They are already using fiat for their financial needs. Bitcoin does not directly enable them to do more. It could make certain transactions easier though, but the same goes for any new technology. Bad people can always use it for their purposes as well. Does this mean we should stop technology development?
    Here comes the question: if bitcoin be used for evil purposes, will we be able to stop them? And who will lead the effort to stop them?

    If fiat is used for evil purposes, will we be able to stop them? And who will lead the effort to stop them?Same question, with the same answer. Law enforcement will lead the offort to stop them, sometimes we may be able to stop them, sometimes we cannot. Fiat is still the biggest currency for illegal transactions. That something CAN be used for something does not mean that that is the only thing that it can be used for.

  • Doofus
    3 weeks ago Doofus

    Quote from: Dorky on April 06, 2017, 05:55:11 AM

    Quote from: Doofus on April 06, 2017, 05:49:43 AM
    how could u not buy this story? didn’t they release a video on You tube?

    Yeah, I am willing to buy the story. How much is it?
    Since your name also starts with D as i do, i’d say 1 DOLLAR. Plus u speak really nice. seriously, u really think this is something that will not happen? What i am wondering is if bitcoin be widely used for bad things, news would flood in and bitcoin price might drop. That’s my whole point.

  • xuan87
    3 weeks ago xuan87

    Bitcoin is a valuable things, so some people will try to used it for bad things, especially it had anonymity feature, it can’t​ be avoided, US dollar also being used for bad things, but it is just a medium, as long as it is valuable it can be used for bad thing, so don’t blame bitcoin but blame the person that used it for bad things

  • Anarchist
    3 weeks ago Anarchist

    This has been talked many times here. Do you guys even read the forum from time to time? you all are talking about the same thing over and over again

  • HongKong
    3 weeks ago HongKong

    It’s kind of funny when people try to state these things and they don’t mention the amount of cash they received as well. It’s either that or they try to make it look like it’s because of Bitcoin these people have weapon access and other crazy stuff.Bitcoin is just a regular thing, it’s less valuable than cash while growing very famous among the people in the world so there is a reason why the Governments are afraid of Bitcoin.

  • jtipt
    3 weeks ago jtipt

    Quote from: Anarchist on April 06, 2017, 09:25:23 AM
    This has been talked many times here. Do you guys even read the forum from time to time? you all are talking about the same thing over and over again
    I know. You can literally find a same topic about bitcoin and terrorism maybe on 2nd or 3rd page of this board itself.

  • mastermold
    3 weeks ago mastermold

    Bitcoin are not generally used  for funding terrorist group. Banks already support money laundering, you can google some bank scandals. Yes bitcoin can be used for the same but so anything that have value. Due to the limited use of bitcoin, it is still not preferred.

  • NeuroticFish
    3 weeks ago NeuroticFish

    The world industry also supports terrorists.The guns are made by industry. The chemicals for the bombs are made by the industry. The phones they use to communicate are made by industry.The central banks support terrorists.The central banks issue the money, right? The money is used to buy their food, their guns and everything.Now really, these “X supports terrorists” threads are tiresome. Almost everything in this world can be used for good and bad.

  • btcdiggingmaster
    3 weeks ago btcdiggingmaster

    I don’t think there is a big difference between fiat and bitcoin, of course, the value is a difference, but the same terrorists are doing their activities with fiat currency only when compared to bitcoin. In order to convert bitcoin they need fiat currency first, yes there are some people who are using bitcoin for terrorist activity.

  • Juggy777
    3 weeks ago Juggy777

    Can you be 100% sure Fiat is not used. And wait a second what is Bitcoins converted into Fiat only right. And do you agree that there was no transactions link to verify this story. It could all have been paid in cash and for the sole purpose of diverting people attention it was said it’s been paid in Bitcoins. Sadly ya I do agree people could use Bitcoins for shady purposes, but that’s very small amount of people not all do. These are kind of people get the Bitcoin community  the bad name.

  • crairezx20
    3 weeks ago crairezx20

    I think many terorist are used bitcoin already by receiving and sending money for buying weapons in black market.. this is already been discuss before and i think they are still using bitcoin as of now.. remember many terorist in the black market who are selling weapons or buying weapons.. but bitcoin is not made just to support terrorist since bitcoin is made to use for paying services..

  • iamTom123
    3 weeks ago iamTom123

    Quote from: Doofus on April 06, 2017, 05:34:27 AM
    On March 8th, Cheollima Civil Defense(CCD) released a video on its website claiming:” Han Sol, the son of Kim Jong Nam, and two other family members were met quickly and relocated to safety. “ And they receive bitcoin for financial support. This is something nice to do. BUt what if bitcoin be used to support some bad organizations, even terrorists? Is this already happening?

    Any currency can be used to support terrorists but it is not the fault of the currency itself…the only thing is that since Bitcoin is new it is raising some eyebrows and there are still so many people who are not convinced of its viability. Fiat currencies are being used to finance terrorist activities but they are rarely mentioned because it is pointless doing so. As to Bitcoin, this scenario is something it can not avoid because of its supposed anonymity feature but Bitcoin transactions can still be traced and we know it so it is not actually 100% anonymous. Unfortunately, we can not command terrorist groups not to use Bitcoin.

  • Wintersoldier
    3 weeks ago Wintersoldier

    Quote from: crairezx20 on April 06, 2017, 11:00:29 AM
    I think many terorist are used bitcoin already by receiving and sending money for buying weapons in black market.. this is already been discuss before and i think they are still using bitcoin as of now.. remember many terorist in the black market who are selling weapons or buying weapons.. but bitcoin is not made just to support terrorist since bitcoin is made to use for paying services..
    Actually, there are more terorist who used fiat money to buy some weapons rather than the terorist who used bitcoin to buy/sell weapons. It’s clear that bitcoin isn’t made to be used for illegal activities that are against to the government or nation since some governments in other country are now supporting bitcoin to be used as majore currency which indicate that bitcoin is a legal currency that its user shouldn’t be discourage to initiate using it for online transactions.

  • HongKong
    3 weeks ago HongKong

    Quote from: btcdiggingmaster on April 06, 2017, 10:28:00 AM
    I don’t think there is a big difference between fiat and bitcoin, of course, the value is a difference, but the same terrorists are doing their activities with fiat currency only when compared to bitcoin. In order to convert bitcoin they need fiat currency first, yes there are some people who are using bitcoin for terrorist activity.
    The difference between Bitcoin and fiat is very little and the Governments and people that promote bitcoin as a terroristic thing don’t know the technical side of Bitcoin.The news that they get is usually from some dude who didn’t even research what Bitcoin was about and just decided to banter on the subject in a negative matter.If more journalist’s did their jobs then there would be a little amount of square people on this topic..

  • mkmdoc
    3 weeks ago mkmdoc

    Quote from: HongKong on April 06, 2017, 11:08:57 AM

    Quote from: btcdiggingmaster on April 06, 2017, 10:28:00 AM
    I don’t think there is a big difference between fiat and bitcoin, of course, the value is a difference, but the same terrorists are doing their activities with fiat currency only when compared to bitcoin. In order to convert bitcoin they need fiat currency first, yes there are some people who are using bitcoin for terrorist activity.
    The difference between Bitcoin and fiat is very little and the Governments and people that promote bitcoin as a terroristic thing don’t know the technical side of Bitcoin.The news that they get is usually from some dude who didn’t even research what Bitcoin was about and just decided to banter on the subject in a negative matter.If more journalist did their jobs then there would be a little amount of square people on this topic..

    I don’t know whether OP knows complete information about terrorist activities for buying weapons, food etc are they using bitcoin. It is complete a trash because now there are very limited stores to buy food and other stuff, right now it is not possible. Mainly they are dealing with fiat currency only I think.

  • gentlemand
    3 weeks ago gentlemand

    Of course it will. If it hasn’t already then it will eventually. Terrorists like a bit of convenience just as much as the next man.

  • Dorky
    3 weeks ago Dorky

    Quote from: Doofus on April 06, 2017, 08:52:24 AM
    Here comes the question: if bitcoin be used for evil purposes, will we be able to stop them? And who will lead the effort to stop them?

    In the future when (not if) bitcoin is regulated and network centralized, the combined effects of regulation + centralization itself will be able to limit actions that any person can take with bitcoin. And that includes funding terrorism.Of course with current network structure, any limitation to impose on what a bitcoin holder can and cannot do is not possible. But once everything is in place, that will be a possibility.

  • olubams
    3 weeks ago olubams

    Quote from: Doofus on April 06, 2017, 05:34:27 AM
    On March 8th, Cheollima Civil Defense(CCD) released a video on its website claiming:” Han Sol, the son of Kim Jong Nam, and two other family members were met quickly and relocated to safety. “ And they receive bitcoin for financial support. This is something nice to do. BUt what if bitcoin be used to support some bad organizations, even terrorists? Is this already happening?

    No one can really tell whether its being used or not we can only assume its possible because I have not read of any breakthrough investigation into terrorist activities that has been reported to have been possible through the use of bitcoin at the same time even if that is achieved, it does not mean all bad for bitcoin even fiat has been used for illegal activities and that does not mean its banned from being used again…

  • romero121
    3 weeks ago romero121

    Quote from: gentlemand on April 06, 2017, 11:16:24 AM
    Of course it will. If it hasn’t already then it will eventually. Terrorists like a bit of convenience just as much as the next man.
    Bitcoin provides convenience to all sort of illegal and terrorist activities due to the pseudo anonymity and decentralization.

  • FasTroy
    3 weeks ago FasTroy

    Bitcoin can used for different domains. By the way, i don’t like this idea about bitcoin be used to support terrorists. Fiat also can be used to these bad things. Bitcoin is a money, you can convert it to money so yes. but this is the bad side of using it. When terrorists cashed by anonymously bitcoin transactions.

  • iqlimasyadiqa
    3 weeks ago iqlimasyadiqa

    I think bitcoin should be used as best as possible. if bitcoin can not be used wisely can certainly lead to negative things. as terrorists, they can take advantage of the distribution and transfer of funds to commit a crime.

  • stompix
    3 weeks ago stompix

    Right now it’s easier to stick to fiat for this kind of “thing”.Terrorist are not going to risk their money into dubious exchanges and in no way they are going to start exchanging 100$ via localbitcoins.They need money, a lot of and sadly large transactions in the blockchain can easily be traced.You’re not “funding” terrorist with 100k a month.Also, good luck using bitcoins in Syria or Iraq.

  • erickkyut
    3 weeks ago erickkyut

    We don’t know the answer to this question if bitcoin is being used in terrorism. Maybe yes, maybe no. Let’s just hope and pray that bitcoin is not being used for those kind of things. Thank you.

  • serjent05
    3 weeks ago serjent05

    Bitcoin is just money or currency, to whatever things it is used depends on the person who have it. So, Bitcoin ca be use in supporting bad things the same way as supporting good things.  So definitely, Bitcoin can be use to support terrorists or terrorist activities.  Even money that has been regulated for centuries are being used as such.

  • Xester
    3 weeks ago Xester

    Quote from: Doofus on April 06, 2017, 05:34:27 AM
    On March 8th, Cheollima Civil Defense(CCD) released a video on its website claiming:” Han Sol, the son of Kim Jong Nam, and two other family members were met quickly and relocated to safety. “ And they receive bitcoin for financial support. This is something nice to do. BUt what if bitcoin be used to support some bad organizations, even terrorists? Is this already happening?

    That is feasible and possible. If US dollars can be used to buy our necessities it can also be used to finance terrorism. Bitcoin as a currency can also be used in buying our necessities if the local merchants will accept it and at the same time it can be also used to finance terrorism. What I mean is the use of any currency will depend on the intention of the holder. Whether it is bitcoin or dollar the government must secure that both will not be used to fund terrorism and cause many deaths.

  • tiggytomb
    3 weeks ago tiggytomb

    Anything can be used for anything, bitcoin, fiat, vouchers and so on the news is always done in a way that hides the fact that as well as bitcoin numerous dollars have been used for the very same thing.

  • jc89
    3 weeks ago jc89

    Quote from: Doofus on April 06, 2017, 05:34:27 AM
    On March 8th, Cheollima Civil Defense(CCD) released a video on its website claiming:” Han Sol, the son of Kim Jong Nam, and two other family members were met quickly and relocated to safety. “ And they receive bitcoin for financial support. This is something nice to do. BUt what if bitcoin be used to support some bad organizations, even terrorists? Is this already happening?

    We cannot control others on how they will use bitcoin just like we cannot control people on how to use fiat. Since bitcoin itself has its value, this type of usage is inevitable. Since you asked if bitcoin is used to support terrorist or any bad organization, I will tell you that nothing will change. Did anyone asked “what if they use fiat to do bad?”, obviously fiat and bitcoin are the same at some point but no one questions the usage of fiat as far as I know.Quote
    Is this already happening?
    Dude, you placed a date in your post Quote
    On March 8th so why are you asking if this is already happening? Isn’t obvious that it is already happening?

  • DoomDumas
    3 weeks ago DoomDumas

    Sure, Like paper money (fiat), like the CIA did/do.. Anyone can use cash, gold, Bitcoin or anything else for anything from Humanitary help to terrorist.. Grocery, gas.. It’s like paper money !  but digital !!

  • avikz
    3 weeks ago avikz

    We really don’t control bitcoin so we don’t know for what bitcoin is being used. Bitcoin had been funding illegal transactions for quite long. Bitcoin had been used for money laundering across many countries. So, bitcoin have seen dirty money as well. I won’t be surprised if terror outfits use bitcoin for their transactions. Because the structure of bitcoin is designed that way. While it has all the transaction records maintained in a public ledger, but unless and until you know the account name, you can’t say what belong to whom.

  • bitbunnny
    3 weeks ago bitbunnny

    Not that it will be but it already has been used for supporting terrorism, unfortunately. Terrorist are also closely watching new technologies that could help them in their activities and Bitcoin was ideal because of the anonimity and it was hard to determine the source of funding. Unfortunately we can’t escape Bitcoin beeing used for illegal stuff.

  • Wind_FURY
    3 weeks ago Wind_FURY

    Quote from: NorrisK on April 06, 2017, 08:54:57 AM

    Quote from: Doofus on April 06, 2017, 08:52:24 AM

    Quote from: NorrisK on April 06, 2017, 08:46:51 AM
    They are already using fiat for their financial needs. Bitcoin does not directly enable them to do more. It could make certain transactions easier though, but the same goes for any new technology. Bad people can always use it for their purposes as well. Does this mean we should stop technology development?
    Here comes the question: if bitcoin be used for evil purposes, will we be able to stop them? And who will lead the effort to stop them?

    If fiat is used for evil purposes, will we be able to stop them? And who will lead the effort to stop them?Same question, with the same answer. Law enforcement will lead the offort to stop them, sometimes we may be able to stop them, sometimes we cannot. Fiat is still the biggest currency for illegal transactions. That something CAN be used for something does not mean that that is the only thing that it can be used for.

    Bitcoin makes it easier for them to move value on the internet. Ask yourself, would the dark markets be possible if fiat was used to transact in them? The answer is clearly no. Bitcoin is a god send for criminals.

  • YuginKadoya
    3 weeks ago YuginKadoya

    Everyone can hold his own bitcoin even criminals can obtain his own bitcoin the question here would be if the police can do something about it? which is very hard to do really! transaction over bitcoin will always be anonymous regarding this that is why I think that is the best question regarding some transaction of identify for illegal business, I think bitcoin is not the reason behind, something like this, the real culprit would be the person itself he can surely done anything with his bitcoin.

  • lukmandog
    3 weeks ago lukmandog

    Quote from: YuginKadoya on April 06, 2017, 02:51:01 PM
    Everyone can hold his own bitcoin even criminals can obtain his own bitcoin the question here would be if the police can do something about it? which is very hard to do really! transaction over bitcoin will always be anonymous regarding this that is why I think that is the best question regarding some transaction of identify for illegal business, I think bitcoin is not the reason behind, something like this, the real culprit would be the person itself he can surely done anything with his bitcoin.

    Nothing is impossible, bitcoin is a tool and remains man himself decisive.Bitcoin is anonymous, and allows anyone or any party to use it for good things or bad things like terrorism.

  • daringdiscovered
    3 weeks ago daringdiscovered

    Quote from: Doofus on April 06, 2017, 05:34:27 AM
    On March 8th, Cheollima Civil Defense(CCD) released a video on its website claiming:” Han Sol, the son of Kim Jong Nam, and two other family members were met quickly and relocated to safety. “ And they receive bitcoin for financial support. This is something nice to do. BUt what if bitcoin be used to support some bad organizations, even terrorists? Is this already happening?

    NO, of course bitcoin wouldn’t support such thing like terrorist, but since anyone could use bitcoin, then terrorist might use it in their dark plan purposes. And Yes, this might already happening, but we just don’t know about it because you know, terrorist act silently but deadly, that is why it is banned on some countries which do have many terrorist, their government is just preventing terrorist to use the advantage of bitcoin on this illegal stuffs.

  • TIDOVEE
    3 weeks ago TIDOVEE

     the technologist, miners, traders …..of bit coin are human, the terrorists are also human. Bit coin can be manipulated as long as it is in humans control to suit whichever purpose.it can be used to support terrorism.

  • JanpriX
    3 weeks ago JanpriX

    Quote from: Doofus on April 06, 2017, 05:34:27 AM
    On March 8th, Cheollima Civil Defense(CCD) released a video on its website claiming:” Han Sol, the son of Kim Jong Nam, and two other family members were met quickly and relocated to safety. “ And they receive bitcoin for financial support. This is something nice to do. BUt what if bitcoin be used to support some bad organizations, even terrorists? Is this already happening?

    As scary as it is, Bitcoin can be used to any way and that of course, can be a good or bad act. It just only depends on the owner of it. The president of US can buy bitcoin and it’s also the same with the criminal groups. They can also buy BTC and use it for terrorism. I think this is one of the reasons why the government wants to control the flow of BTC in certain countries.

  • AGD
    3 weeks ago AGD

    It is easier to track Bitcoins than it is to track cash. Some of you guys should check https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudonymity

  • Hazir
    3 weeks ago Hazir

    Quote from: Doofus on April 06, 2017, 05:34:27 AM
    On March 8th, Cheollima Civil Defense(CCD) released a video on its website claiming:” Han Sol, the son of Kim Jong Nam, and two other family members were met quickly and relocated to safety. “ And they receive bitcoin for financial support. This is something nice to do. BUt what if bitcoin be used to support some bad organizations, even terrorists? Is this already happening?
    So what? They didn’t mention that North Korea had or still has secret factories where they manufacture Superdollars, a very high quality counterfeit United States one hundred-dollar bills?According to witnesses factory where the notes are printed is located in the city of Pyongsong and is part of Division 39. They printed hundreds of millions, if not more of these banknotes.So this is not a huge problem, but when North Korean government have access to bitcoin it suddenly becomes national threat? What kind of hypocrisy is this?Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superdollar#North_Korea

  • Wind_FURY
    3 weeks ago Wind_FURY

    Quote from: AGD on April 06, 2017, 05:11:03 PM
    It is easier to track Bitcoins than it is to track cash. Some of you guys should check https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudonymity

    Yes it is that is why we have Bitcoin mixing services. Trackibility will not discourage the criminals from using it as their preferred way to do transactions. Try dealing in the dark markets. Bitcoin is reaching new heights by operating outside the jurisdiction of regulatory bodies.

  • Zadicar
    3 weeks ago Zadicar

    Quote from: Wind_FURY on April 07, 2017, 01:23:20 AM

    Quote from: AGD on April 06, 2017, 05:11:03 PM
    It is easier to track Bitcoins than it is to track cash. Some of you guys should check https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudonymity

    Yes it is that is why we have Bitcoin mixing services. Trackibility will not discourage the criminals from using it as their preferred way to do transactions. Try dealing in the dark markets. Bitcoin is reaching new heights by operating outside the jurisdiction of regulatory bodies.
    Thats why there are mixing services and i can say that they are earning decent because of illegal transactions or for those people who dont want to be traced. Yes its really possible to track bitcoin transactions but using mixing services would do the job on hiding yourself completely and it can really be used by terrorist or any other person do illegal activities.

  • Doofus
    3 weeks ago Doofus

    Quote from: jc89 on April 06, 2017, 02:08:24 PM

    Quote from: Doofus on April 06, 2017, 05:34:27 AM
    On March 8th, Cheollima Civil Defense(CCD) released a video on its website claiming:” Han Sol, the son of Kim Jong Nam, and two other family members were met quickly and relocated to safety. “ And they receive bitcoin for financial support. This is something nice to do. BUt what if bitcoin be used to support some bad organizations, even terrorists? Is this already happening?

    We cannot control others on how they will use bitcoin just like we cannot control people on how to use fiat. Since bitcoin itself has its value, this type of usage is inevitable. Since you asked if bitcoin is used to support terrorist or any bad organization, I will tell you that nothing will change. Did anyone asked “what if they use fiat to do bad?”, obviously fiat and bitcoin are the same at some point but no one questions the usage of fiat as far as I know.Quote
    Is this already happening?
    Dude, you placed a date in your post Quote
    On March 8th so why are you asking if this is already happening? Isn’t obvious that it is already happening?
    uh,  CCD is not terrorists. ……It helps to fight North Korea’s dictatorship. i mean if btc can be used for good, it can also be used for bad.

  • Janation
    3 weeks ago Janation

    Is this true? I think it is still not certain. But there is a possibility that they will use these bitcoin to send them because bitcoin can be sent not knowing who sent it and what will be doing with it, even who is the reciever of it. Even in my newbie days here I am also thinking that these can be done by people, though I don’t think that it can be really used these efficiently by these terrorist. With these, terrorist can convert bitcoin and earn money, buy guns and other things that they can use to overthrow the government and hurt the people under it, that is really miserable.

  • KesoNie
    3 weeks ago KesoNie

    Quote from: Doofus on April 06, 2017, 05:34:27 AM
    On March 8th, Cheollima Civil Defense(CCD) released a video on its website claiming:” Han Sol, the son of Kim Jong Nam, and two other family members were met quickly and relocated to safety. “ And they receive bitcoin for financial support. This is something nice to do. BUt what if bitcoin be used to support some bad organizations, even terrorists? Is this already happening?  What i am worrying is if bitcoin be widely used for bad things, negative news would be all over and bitcoin price will drop. It will lead to tougher regulation. Do u think world leaders are willing to kill btc to make sure they can fight terrirists?

    There are no restriction in bitcoin , everyone is highly suitable to join , use and earn bitcoin. It is the user or to the bitcoiner the decision on whether to use it, even for the bad or for the good of him or everyone.

  • CraigWrightBTC
    3 weeks ago CraigWrightBTC

    Of course yes, basiccally bitcoin can be used for good things and bad things include support terrorists​ but should the peoples who care about bitcoin and as comunity of bitcoin we must take care about bitcoin don’t be used for bad things like support to terrorists​. please don’t use bitcoin for support terrorists​ and criminal

  • neochiny
    3 weeks ago neochiny

    Things like this are inevitable to happen, people will use any advantage of a currency to their favor,but that doesn’t mean bitcoin is a bad currency, terrorists have been using fiat, gold, silver etc..to their illegal transactions/activities. Bitcoin cannot be blamed if the terrorist used it in their transactions

  • shinratensei_
    3 weeks ago shinratensei_

    No-one knows about that answer, but in my assumption, if the bitcoin already familiar to the Darknet and there is a high possibility to be used by the terrorist. But that depends on the user interest. I’ve ever seen dark marketplace guide by using the bitcoin. https://psychonautwiki.org I don’t think so, They having various kinds of the payment method and didn’t put his concentration just on the bitcoin.

  • ufaiz50
    3 weeks ago ufaiz50

    unfortunately most likely it is already happen than to consider eliminating the same bitcoin by eliminating the terrorists it’s too excessive. anonymity one who can do it but if it is omitted then it bitcoin will not be perfect so bitcoin be a double edged sword.

  • fortunecrypto
    3 weeks ago fortunecrypto

    Quote from: Doofus on April 06, 2017, 05:34:27 AM
    On March 8th, Cheollima Civil Defense(CCD) released a video on its website claiming:” Han Sol, the son of Kim Jong Nam, and two other family members were met quickly and relocated to safety. “ And they receive bitcoin for financial support. This is something nice to do. BUt what if bitcoin be used to support some bad organizations, even terrorists? Is this already happening?  What i am worrying is if bitcoin be widely used for bad things, negative news would be all over and bitcoin price will drop. It will lead to tougher regulation. Do u think world leaders are willing to kill btc to make sure they can fight terrirists?

    Where is the link to this post,there should be one.I don’t think Bitcoin purpose is primarily to help terrorist but these idiots have found a way to use this to their advantage because it is decentralized but the advantages of using bitcoin outweighs the disadvantages  

  • Sadlife
    3 weeks ago Sadlife

    Bitcoin is not good or bad it depends in the users who uses it for good or evil.Dont blame an innocent virtual currency to the cruelty of human beingsMany people will take advantage of bitcoin’s decentralized and anonymous feature but bitcoin can be freely use by anyone even if you’re good or bad.

  • Janation
    3 weeks ago Janation

    Quote from: Sadlife on April 07, 2017, 03:33:50 AM
    Bitcoin is not good or bad it depends in the users who uses it for good or evil.Dont blame an innocent virtual currency to the cruelty of human beingsMany people will take advantage of bitcoin’s decentralized and anonymous feature but bitcoin can be freely use by anyone even if you’re good or bad.

     That is right, bitcoin is just a virtual currency and it is not good or bad but depends on how the users use it. We humans are the one making that digital currency tainted in black but it is inevitable. It is been predicted to be used in such activities and we can’t do anything about it because it is really ideal for making such illegal transactions. Satoshi Nakamoto created these digital currency so that we can have freedom about our money and send it efficiently throughout the world. And if Satoshi Nakamoto knew that they are using it wrong, he will be very dissapointed with it.

  • noictib
    3 weeks ago noictib

    Quote from: Doofus on April 06, 2017, 05:34:27 AM
    On March 8th, Cheollima Civil Defense(CCD) released a video on its website claiming:” Han Sol, the son of Kim Jong Nam, and two other family members were met quickly and relocated to safety. “ And they receive bitcoin for financial support. This is something nice to do. BUt what if bitcoin be used to support some bad organizations, even terrorists? Is this already happening?  What i am worrying is if bitcoin be widely used for bad things, negative news would be all over and bitcoin price will drop. It will lead to tougher regulation. Do u think world leaders are willing to kill btc to make sure they can fight terrirists?
    Since bitcoin is not a centralized , but it is decentralized and everyone is free  to use and it is not restricted to use for particular person or user .But still use of bitcoin by such types of people ( criminal activities ) will down the value ( in view of the government ) and it may be possible that some more countries ban the bitcoin fully .So here we should do complete our responsibility , we should never make deals with those person who are not known fully or are doubtable and never try to reveal  Thier identity . In this way we can stop the use of bitcoin in bad thing and we will finally support the bitcoin in really way .

  • bhadz
    3 weeks ago bhadz

    The question is very unfair, we know that US dollars and everything that has worth and value can be used for buying weapons. But we are all free to use whatever we want with our bitcoins. This is decentralized and freedom can be applied here it is why we don’t care if those people are willing to use their btc for supporting terrorists, criminals and rebels. And where’s the source of this news?

  • Lubang Bawah
    3 weeks ago Lubang Bawah

    I think it is very likely, this is because a transaction with the bank are very strict so as to make them use the bitcoin for terrorist funds transfer. But there’s a bright side, the bitcoin prices will rise. 

  • Astvile
    3 weeks ago Astvile

    Quote from: Doofus on April 06, 2017, 05:34:27 AM
    On March 8th, Cheollima Civil Defense(CCD) released a video on its website claiming:” Han Sol, the son of Kim Jong Nam, and two other family members were met quickly and relocated to safety. “ And they receive bitcoin for financial support. This is something nice to do. BUt what if bitcoin be used to support some bad organizations, even terrorists? Is this already happening?  What i am worrying is if bitcoin be widely used for bad things, negative news would be all over and bitcoin price will drop. It will lead to tougher regulation. Do u think world leaders are willing to kill btc to make sure they can fight terrirists?
    Yes i think so that bitcoins in this day is being use as funds on illegal things like drugs prostitution and even terrorism,in fact thats the reason why some country banned bitcoin entirely in their place because it is being use in that way.Yes world leaders may have a will to kill btc if btc affect so much in terrorism and drugs.They need to shutdown btc in order to lessen growing problem,

  • DoublerHunter
    3 weeks ago DoublerHunter

    Bitcoin can be used to support different terrorist organizations because of being anonymous of bitcoin it can easily transfer from one account to the bad people without even noticing it because the bitcoin is anonymous and secure. If that happens, i think government will take an action like banning it and stopping bitcoin operation but i hope that those things won’t happen.

  • LEEMEEGO
    3 weeks ago LEEMEEGO

    Quote from: Sadlife on April 07, 2017, 03:33:50 AM
    Bitcoin is not good or bad it depends in the users who uses it for good or evil.Dont blame an innocent virtual currency to the cruelty of human beingsMany people will take advantage of bitcoin’s decentralized and anonymous feature but bitcoin can be freely use by anyone even if you’re good or bad.

    i had so much laugh with this line mate but this is absolutely true! bitcoin itself has nothing to do with what people do to it or how people will use it. but this is the saddest part here. because of its kind of being anonymous, people will abuse the use of bitcoin. they use it for committing crimes and illegal acts that it is not supposed to be that way. too bad for bitcoin being used for such acts.

  • neochiny
    3 weeks ago neochiny

    Quote from: DoublerHunter on April 07, 2017, 07:05:22 AM
    Bitcoin can be used to support different terrorist organizations because of being anonymous of bitcoin it can easily transfer from one account to the bad people without even noticing it because the bitcoin is anonymous and secure. If that happens, i think government will take an action like banning it and stopping bitcoin operation but i hope that those things won’t happen.

    They can’t condemn bitcoin just because of that, their own currency is also being use inillegal transactions, it would be a hypocritical move if they blame bitcoin just becauseit is being used by the terrorist

  • Dr.Osh
    3 weeks ago Dr.Osh

    it could have been done. bitcoin has advantages that make it can benefit terrorists. well, that is difficult to track transactions made anyone can trade freely without a clear identity. maybe it could push terrorists to use bitcoin as a tool for their transactions.

  • DoublerHunter
    3 weeks ago DoublerHunter

    Quote from: neochiny on April 07, 2017, 07:52:42 AM

    Quote from: DoublerHunter on April 07, 2017, 07:05:22 AM
    Bitcoin can be used to support different terrorist organizations because of being anonymous of bitcoin it can easily transfer from one account to the bad people without even noticing it because the bitcoin is anonymous and secure. If that happens, i think government will take an action like banning it and stopping bitcoin operation but i hope that those things won’t happen.

    They can’t condemn bitcoin just because of that, their own currency is also being use inillegal transactions, it would be a hypocritical move if they blame bitcoin just becauseit is being used by the terrorist
    Yes we know that even though their real money is being used in doing illegal transactions but did you know that it is easier to give money thru bitcoin and it will be more safer? Because imagine if a rich man will support terrorist then if he withdraw money from his account, it will reflection on his bank account and the government might investigate that while in bitcoin if you send and withdraw money there is no traces that might put you in danger. So bitcoin is more prone for being used in terrorism.

  • Schuyler
    3 weeks ago Schuyler

    Quote from: Dr.Osh on April 07, 2017, 07:55:09 AM
    it could have been done. bitcoin has advantages that make it can benefit terrorists. well, that is difficult to track transactions made anyone can trade freely without a clear identity. maybe it could push terrorists to use bitcoin as a tool for their transactions.
    Bitcoin, like any other currencies or valuable stuff, is neutral. It does not have any motives in itself. We are the ones who make decisions on how to use bitcoin and all these resources around us. Whether it be for gambling, for terrorism, or for watching porn, or donating to a charitable institution, and the money we use represents as our blind witness to our transactions.

  • PrintCoins
    3 weeks ago PrintCoins

    Do you really think there is any type of transaction that terrorists or “bad guys” in general have not used yet?You can be sure that they have and are having still. Instead of dealing with banks or carrying big suitcases ful of money it’s easier to just go with a smartphone and confirm a simple transaction.

  • Yuuto
    3 weeks ago Yuuto

    Quote from: Sadlife on April 07, 2017, 03:33:50 AM
    Bitcoin is not good or bad it depends in the users who uses it for good or evil.Dont blame an innocent virtual currency to the cruelty of human beingsMany people will take advantage of bitcoin’s decentralized and anonymous feature but bitcoin can be freely use by anyone even if you’re good or bad.
    Exactly, I have many friends who react bad when they hear “bitcoin”, they say its a currency for thieves and criminals, what is total bullshit.It is like saying that mexican peso is a currency for drug cartels and murderers.Guess what it is just being used by cartels: and the same thing applies to bitcoin: it may be used for illegal activities however you can use it for buying any product, even a car!If I would be a terrorist, and I would want to use cryptocurrency as a payment method, my choose would be rather Monero than Bitcoin, it is better for people who want to stay 100% anonymous all the time.

  • aubert
    3 weeks ago aubert

    Quote from: Yuuto on April 07, 2017, 10:11:35 AM

    Quote from: Sadlife on April 07, 2017, 03:33:50 AM
    Bitcoin is not good or bad it depends in the users who uses it for good or evil.Dont blame an innocent virtual currency to the cruelty of human beingsMany people will take advantage of bitcoin’s decentralized and anonymous feature but bitcoin can be freely use by anyone even if you’re good or bad.
    Exactly, I have many friends who react bad when they hear “bitcoin”, they say its a currency for thieves and criminals, what is total bullshit.It is like saying that mexican peso is a currency for drug cartels and murderers.Guess what it is just being used by cartels: and the same thing applies to bitcoin: it may be used for illegal activities however you can use it for buying any product, even a car!If I would be a terrorist, and I would want to use cryptocurrency as a payment method, my choose would be rather Monero than Bitcoin, it is better for people who want to stay 100% anonymous all the time.
    That’s a stereotype based on what media said and people near you seem to have been brainwashed by the media easily. You have to choice to whether get the stereotype right by persuading them to learn what is bitcoin which would take so much effort and not easy of course or just ignore them like when you’re ignoring bacteria around you.

  • Haladay
    3 weeks ago Haladay

    Guys, sorry but this is a huge bullshit, frankly saying… One could create such stories even by using golems, ancient monsters etc. Do you really believe this?

  • YuginKadoya
    3 weeks ago YuginKadoya

    Quote from: lukmandog on April 06, 2017, 04:06:27 PM

    Quote from: YuginKadoya on April 06, 2017, 02:51:01 PM
    Everyone can hold his own bitcoin even criminals can obtain his own bitcoin the question here would be if the police can do something about it? which is very hard to do really! transaction over bitcoin will always be anonymous regarding this that is why I think that is the best question regarding some transaction of identify for illegal business, I think bitcoin is not the reason behind, something like this, the real culprit would be the person itself he can surely done anything with his bitcoin.

    Nothing is impossible, bitcoin is a tool and remains man himself decisive.Bitcoin is anonymous, and allows anyone or any party to use it for good things or bad things like terrorism.

    I think that is what I am trying to explain and you just repeat it? lol Well commonly our authority would not recognize any certain person if he would done a crime or not and the system of bitcoin is very secure and anonymous that any one can really use it,

  • triasel
    3 weeks ago triasel

    Quote from: Doofus on April 06, 2017, 05:34:27 AM
    On March 8th, Cheollima Civil Defense(CCD) released a video on its website claiming:” Han Sol, the son of Kim Jong Nam, and two other family members were met quickly and relocated to safety. “ And they receive bitcoin for financial support. This is something nice to do. BUt what if bitcoin be used to support some bad organizations, even terrorists? Is this already happening?  What i am worrying is if bitcoin be widely used for bad things, negative news would be all over and bitcoin price will drop. It will lead to tougher regulation. Do u think world leaders are willing to kill btc to make sure they can fight terrirists?
    i think you need refreshing man  i think bitcoin just use as payment and add income user bitcoin . not for terorism yet

  • Yakamoto
    3 weeks ago Yakamoto

    Quote from: Doofus on April 06, 2017, 05:34:27 AM
    On March 8th, Cheollima Civil Defense(CCD) released a video on its website claiming:” Han Sol, the son of Kim Jong Nam, and two other family members were met quickly and relocated to safety. “ And they receive bitcoin for financial support. This is something nice to do. BUt what if bitcoin be used to support some bad organizations, even terrorists? Is this already happening?  What i am worrying is if bitcoin be widely used for bad things, negative news would be all over and bitcoin price will drop. It will lead to tougher regulation. Do u think world leaders are willing to kill btc to make sure they can fight terrirists?
    Anyone who talks about using legislation on Bitcoin to fight terrorism is simply using a convenient event to push an agenda that they’ve had for a while. The fact is, Bitcoin is not used all that much more than other currencies for illicit activity that affects other people in a dangerous way, a large majority of the time. While it is more popular on sites that use .onion extensions, other currencies are still used, and would just make up Bitcoin’s market share.Stopping Bitcoin doesn’t stop terrorist funding. It’s disingenuous to suggest such a thing.

  • maydna
    3 weeks ago maydna

    maybe yes and maybe no because we can not know for what the transaction is made. i think in out there, there still have a chance for bitcoin is used by supporting terrorists and they can using bitcoin for free. they can make transfer by sending and receiving bitcoin and then they can exchange it with local currency so they can buy some weapons or buy anything they want especially if the price is really high for now and i think they can make profit with this too. there still many possibilities for terorrist to use bitcoin for free as bitcoin is design for anonymously.

  • PrintCoins
    3 weeks ago PrintCoins

    Let’s say that instead of bitcoin it would be feathers or rocks.Would terrorists use rocks for their own interests? Of course.Gun (or bomb) dealers don’t care what it is, they want to deal and get paid.Doesn’t matter what currency is used.

  • SONG GEET
    3 weeks ago SONG GEET

    Fiat and normal bank wire are being used by terrorist from long time ago and they have now started using bitcoin for transactions however bitcoin still only covers very little part of transactions in those organization.I don’t care in what purpose bitcoin are being used as long as it can put few more million on bitcoin marketcap. 

  • jak3
    3 weeks ago jak3

    common bitcoin is just a kind of new money processing system, we more likely treat it like real money with some imaginary values which is nowadays being judged by the different types of bitcoin and altcoin exchanges, the point is the money can be used in anyway no matter good or bad. even if terrorists uses it for their benefits we can not close the whole bitcoin system to stop them, if we stop bitcoin they will simply switch to dollars or something else but we can not stop money and by the way yes bitcoin is widely being used at the dark side too mainly for illegal activities

  • Sweetbtc
    2 weeks ago Sweetbtc

    Quote from: lukmandog on April 06, 2017, 04:06:27 PM

    Quote from: YuginKadoya on April 06, 2017, 02:51:01 PM
    Everyone can hold his own bitcoin even criminals can obtain his own bitcoin the question here would be if the police can do something about it? which is very hard to do really! transaction over bitcoin will always be anonymous regarding this that is why I think that is the best question regarding some transaction of identify for illegal business, I think bitcoin is not the reason behind, something like this, the real culprit would be the person itself he can surely done anything with his bitcoin.

    Nothing is impossible, bitcoin is a tool and remains man himself decisive.Bitcoin is anonymous, and allows anyone or any party to use it for good things or bad things like terrorism.

    But it does not support the terrorist it is just that it is free for everyone and so terrorist took advantage of it. We cant relate bitcoins to terrorists in any case.

  • Wind_FURY
    2 weeks ago Wind_FURY

    Quote from: CraigWrightBTC on April 07, 2017, 02:13:29 AM
    Of course yes, basiccally bitcoin can be used for good things and bad things include support terrorists​ but should the peoples who care about bitcoin and as comunity of bitcoin we must take care about bitcoin don’t be used for bad things like support to terrorists​. please don’t use bitcoin for support terrorists​ and criminal

    You cannot stop it, no matter how much you beg and plead. In my opinion it is better if it was used by criminals and terrorists. Disruption of the banking system is what we want as Bitcoiners right?

  • Ameeta
    2 weeks ago Ameeta

    Quote from: Doofus on April 06, 2017, 05:34:27 AM
    On March 8th, Cheollima Civil Defense(CCD) released a video on its website claiming:” Han Sol, the son of Kim Jong Nam, and two other family members were met quickly and relocated to safety. “ And they receive bitcoin for financial support. This is something nice to do. BUt what if bitcoin be used to support some bad organizations, even terrorists? Is this already happening?  What i am worrying is if bitcoin be widely used for bad things, negative news would be all over and bitcoin price will drop. It will lead to tougher regulation. Do u think world leaders are willing to kill btc to make sure they can fight terrirists?

    That really doesn’t matter the BTC used by whom. Money (every currency) also used by terrorist That doesn’t decrease the value of any currency. So dear! No worry about the devaluation of bitcoin.

  • NEWGOODOUBLE
    2 weeks ago NEWGOODOUBLE

    Quote from: Sadlife on April 07, 2017, 03:33:50 AM
    Bitcoin is not good or bad it depends in the users who uses it for good or evil.Dont blame an innocent virtual currency to the cruelty of human beingsMany people will take advantage of bitcoin’s decentralized and anonymous feature but bitcoin can be freely use by anyone even if you’re good or bad.
    Thats true, bitcoin will have a bad effect or whether it relies on users. there are many users in bitcoin and they have a goal each and maybe some of them using bitcoin for illegal activities

  • btvGainer
    2 weeks ago btvGainer

    Quote from: Doofus on April 06, 2017, 05:34:27 AM
    On March 8th, Cheollima Civil Defense(CCD) released a video on its website claiming:” Han Sol, the son of Kim Jong Nam, and two other family members were met quickly and relocated to safety. “ And they receive bitcoin for financial support. This is something nice to do. BUt what if bitcoin be used to support some bad organizations, even terrorists? Is this already happening?  What i am worrying is if bitcoin be widely used for bad things, negative news would be all over and bitcoin price will drop. It will lead to tougher regulation. Do u think world leaders are willing to kill btc to make sure they can fight terrirists?
    Even fiat is used for bad things.Imagine if Han Sol and family were given gold instead of bitcoin, would you still be asking this about gold?.Would world leaders have tried to kill gols then?

  • batang_bitcoin
    2 weeks ago batang_bitcoin

    Quote from: Sweetbtc on April 07, 2017, 07:13:20 PM
    But it does not support the terrorist it is just that it is free for everyone and so terrorist took advantage of it. We cant relate bitcoins to terrorists in any case.

    Yes bitcoin doesn’t support terrorist but it is giving us freedom and everyone has the right to do so. Just like the real money, those people that are doing crimes are using it for buying their things so that they can keep on committing crimes and can live their lives with pleasure. The only relation of bitcoins to terrorists is that they can use it for buying their super weapons.

  • Janation
    2 weeks ago Janation

    Quote from: SONG GEET on April 07, 2017, 06:09:24 PM
    Fiat and normal bank wire are being used by terrorist from long time ago and they have now started using bitcoin for transactions however bitcoin still only covers very little part of transactions in those organization.I don’t care in what purpose bitcoin are being used as long as it can put few more million on bitcoin marketcap. 

    Bitcoin is nowhere to be blamed here. They are just using the feature of bitcoin which is really a great way to transact their bitcoin and use it wherever they want, whenever they want. And the fact that they are using bitcoin, is a good thing. But I just like the fact they use bitcoin, but do not like the fact how they use it. As you said, it will really help the bitcoin price to increase. Win win.

  • Wind_FURY
    2 weeks ago Wind_FURY

    Quote from: bhadz on April 07, 2017, 05:09:00 AM
    The question is very unfair, we know that US dollars and everything that has worth and value can be used for buying weapons. But we are all free to use whatever we want with our bitcoins. This is decentralized and freedom can be applied here it is why we don’t care if those people are willing to use their btc for supporting terrorists, criminals and rebels. And where’s the source of this news?

    What do you mean the “question is unfair”? No one was trying to say Bitcoin is bad because terrorists use it. But it does show that Bitcoin is the perfect medium for value transfer that can be used by terrorists to move their money through the internet very easily. Not only that drug dealers, prostitution, illegal gambling and ransomware also love to Bitcoin.

  • Sled
    2 weeks ago Sled

    Any kind of currency can be used to support terrorists not only bitcoin but also the fiat or the money that we are using. This kind of thing is not new because even in the last decades, some people use money to support terrorist and now there is a bitcoin that is anonymous and can’t be traced and there is no doubt that it will be used.

  • ranochigo
    2 weeks ago ranochigo

    Just a quick fact check, fiat is the main currency used to support terrorism. Nothing has changed right?Bitcoin’s market cap is far too low to finance a huge terrorist organisation. If it were to happen, rules imposed on exchange (AML/KYC) policies can help to prevent it. It is hard to purchase anything with Bitcoin without exchanging to fiat first.

  • iram3130
    2 weeks ago iram3130

    Quote from: ranochigo on April 08, 2017, 05:36:01 AM
    Just a quick fact check, fiat is the main currency used to support terrorism. Nothing has changed right?Bitcoin’s market cap is far too low to finance a huge terrorist organisation. If it were to happen, rules imposed on exchange (AML/KYC) policies can help to prevent it. It is hard to purchase anything with Bitcoin without exchanging to fiat first.

    That’s what I was thinking when I saw this question. The people who have tried transacting some big amounts through exchanges or other wallets. Without being converted to fiat it’s near to impossible. We are not talking about small amounts here and as far as I know terrorist groups are not that patient who wait 24 hours to get a confirmation 

  • Amph
    2 weeks ago Amph

    Quote from: ranochigo on April 08, 2017, 05:36:01 AM
    Just a quick fact check, fiat is the main currency used to support terrorism. Nothing has changed right?Bitcoin’s market cap is far too low to finance a huge terrorist organisation. If it were to happen, rules imposed on exchange (AML/KYC) policies can help to prevent it. It is hard to purchase anything with Bitcoin without exchanging to fiat first.

    not to mention that terrorist buying bitoin for their activity would actually support bitcoin, more than bitcoin supporting themi mean terrorist don’t have any way to have bitcoin minus buying, if they were really using bitcoin, right now the price would be higher

  • HarringtonStark
    2 weeks ago HarringtonStark

    Quote from: Amph on April 08, 2017, 05:55:53 AM

    Quote from: ranochigo on April 08, 2017, 05:36:01 AM
    Just a quick fact check, fiat is the main currency used to support terrorism. Nothing has changed right?Bitcoin’s market cap is far too low to finance a huge terrorist organisation. If it were to happen, rules imposed on exchange (AML/KYC) policies can help to prevent it. It is hard to purchase anything with Bitcoin without exchanging to fiat first.

    not to mention that terrorist buying bitoin for their activity would actually support bitcoin, more than bitcoin supporting themi mean terrorist don’t have any way to have bitcoin minus buying, if they were really using bitcoin, right now the price would be higher

    I believe it’s being used ever since. In the deep web I see some contract killers for hire and you pay them bitcoins to kill me or other person, for example. I’ve heard some secret ISIS sites in the deep web too and anonymous is on high alert about these terrorist sites.  I’m sure they are using bitcoin to fund their cause.

  • gabbie2010
    2 weeks ago gabbie2010

    Yes we can’t’ deny the fact that bitcoin can be used to support  terrorists then it is necessary to monitor all forms of bitcoin transfers from one wallet to another. this will checkmate all forms of illegality.

  • machinek20
    2 weeks ago machinek20

    I am sure nobody want and agree bitcoin to support terrorist and it was never intended to made bitcoin to be used in illegal activities, but since bitcoin is acceptable and can be used as payment token so we cant deny that some people using bitcoin for bad things, and it is a bit unfair to keep on exposing bitcoin support terrorist, fiat is also used to purchased illegal thing and other bad activities

  • Davkul
    2 weeks ago Davkul

    Quote from: Doofus on April 06, 2017, 05:34:27 AM
    On March 8th, Cheollima Civil Defense(CCD) released a video on its website claiming:” Han Sol, the son of Kim Jong Nam, and two other family members were met quickly and relocated to safety. “ And they receive bitcoin for financial support. This is something nice to do. BUt what if bitcoin be used to support some bad organizations, even terrorists? Is this already happening?  What i am worrying is if bitcoin be widely used for bad things, negative news would be all over and bitcoin price will drop. It will lead to tougher regulation. Do u think world leaders are willing to kill btc to make sure they can fight terrirists?

    Is this already happening? Most likely.You should see BTC as a normal currency, like € or $. Criminal organizations get paid in all currencies, cash or virtual, it doesn’t matter.Did they kill € and $? No. Will that ever happen? No, that’s simply stupid. So why would that happen with btc?I know what you mean with that, I know that you felt like asking this question because popular beliefs see Bitcoin as an illegal and nonexistent currency, but I honestly think that’s never going to happen. They can’t kill something big like btc.

  • Xester
    2 weeks ago Xester

    Quote from: Wind_FURY on April 07, 2017, 07:25:09 PM

    Quote from: CraigWrightBTC on April 07, 2017, 02:13:29 AM
    Of course yes, basiccally bitcoin can be used for good things and bad things include support terrorists​ but should the peoples who care about bitcoin and as comunity of bitcoin we must take care about bitcoin don’t be used for bad things like support to terrorists​. please don’t use bitcoin for support terrorists​ and criminal

    You cannot stop it, no matter how much you beg and plead. In my opinion it is better if it was used by criminals and terrorists. Disruption of the banking system is what we want as Bitcoiners right?

    Even if we make some posters on billboards telling people to not use bitcoin in illegal activities or to support terrorism but that will do nothing. Everything will depend on the choice and the decision of a person. And so if that person will send bitcoin to the terrorists with an intention of rebelling against the states then we have no control over that. Bitcoin as a currency will not be free from such activity but let us not worry about that since the government is doing its job to stop all kinds of terrorism.

  • megynacuna
    2 weeks ago megynacuna

    It can be used just like other currencies but the advantages of Bitcoin makes it more easier for these deviants to adopt it as their main stream currency as it pays worldwide without any rigid verifications.

  • choppork
    2 weeks ago choppork

    Quote from: HarringtonStark on April 08, 2017, 07:12:58 AM
    I believe it’s being used ever since. In the deep web I see some contract killers for hire and you pay them bitcoins to kill me or other person, for example. I’ve heard some secret ISIS sites in the deep web too and anonymous is on high alert about these terrorist sites.  I’m sure they are using bitcoin to fund their cause.

    Does it really have to be from the deep web to look realistic? What if I told you that you can hire literally anyone to kill somebody else? That doesn’t make any difference at all from some guy in the deep web. Anyone can kill a person depending on the price. That’s not news to us at all.But the payment doesn’t necessarily has to be bitcoins. Any single thing that can be used to destroy the world or at least inflict damage to it is helping the terrorists. And literally everything can be like that. Even a tree can be used as a weapon by the terrorists. You can kill using a log from a tree.It’s not bitcoins that’s supporting the terrorists. It’s just that everything can be used as right or wrong.

  • bitbob82
    2 weeks ago bitbob82

    Quote from: megynacuna on April 08, 2017, 01:33:04 PM
    It can be used just like other currencies but the advantages of Bitcoin makes it more easier for these deviants to adopt it as their main stream currency as it pays worldwide without any rigid verifications.
    yes that is very right to say that bitcoin is making it more easy to use bitcoin in more convenient way. in fact bitcoin is providing such facilities which are making our life more easier.

  • Winner
    2 weeks ago Winner

    Quote from: HarringtonStark on April 08, 2017, 07:12:58 AM

    Quote from: Amph on April 08, 2017, 05:55:53 AM

    Quote from: ranochigo on April 08, 2017, 05:36:01 AM
    Just a quick fact check, fiat is the main currency used to support terrorism. Nothing has changed right?Bitcoin’s market cap is far too low to finance a huge terrorist organisation. If it were to happen, rules imposed on exchange (AML/KYC) policies can help to prevent it. It is hard to purchase anything with Bitcoin without exchanging to fiat first.

    not to mention that terrorist buying bitoin for their activity would actually support bitcoin, more than bitcoin supporting themi mean terrorist don’t have any way to have bitcoin minus buying, if they were really using bitcoin, right now the price would be higher

    I believe it’s being used ever since. In the deep web I see some contract killers for hire and you pay them bitcoins to kill me or other person, for example. I’ve heard some secret ISIS sites in the deep web too and anonymous is on high alert about these terrorist sites.  I’m sure they are using bitcoin to fund their cause.
    Well terrorists aren’t the only thing that Bitcoin has, there’s other groups of people that do really disgusting things that accept and send payments with Bitcoin. Bitcoin isn’t the only thing that they use, they also use other Currencies that help fund those type of activities and they don’t complain so much about it other than it being a large amount of money. The Governments already knows that Bitcoin does not have the potential to overcome their main Currencies and they just want the power of the Currencies just standing out in front of the citizens residing in it.

  • alexcard1
    2 weeks ago alexcard1

    Every strong currency was used to support terrorism, EUR, USD, GPB, etc. It does not make Bitcoin bad.

  • KingdomHearts
    2 weeks ago KingdomHearts

    Quote from: bitbob82 on April 08, 2017, 06:40:24 PM

    Quote from: megynacuna on April 08, 2017, 01:33:04 PM
    It can be used just like other currencies but the advantages of Bitcoin makes it more easier for these deviants to adopt it as their main stream currency as it pays worldwide without any rigid verifications.
    yes that is very right to say that bitcoin is making it more easy to use bitcoin in more convenient way. in fact bitcoin is providing such facilities which are making our life more easier.
    you are right that bitcoin is providing facilities to people and its really make life easy fro their user and i do not think that bitcoin support terrorists because bitcoin is a good digital currency which used for online.

  • Wind_FURY
    2 weeks ago Wind_FURY

    Quote from: ranochigo on April 08, 2017, 05:36:01 AM
    Just a quick fact check, fiat is the main currency used to support terrorism. Nothing has changed right?Bitcoin’s market cap is far too low to finance a huge terrorist organisation. If it were to happen, rules imposed on exchange (AML/KYC) policies can help to prevent it. It is hard to purchase anything with Bitcoin without exchanging to fiat first.

    Then there will be a gap in the market that someone will be willing to fill. If there was a terrorist group who wants to convert their Bitcoins to fiat, a trader in the black market could buy them for a better price than the regular market. Money launderers who want to use Bitcoin could also do this.

  • warwar
    2 weeks ago warwar

    Yeah i think so it is used to support terrorist around the world.Since one advantage that bitcoins is offering is anonymity in each transaction and almost untraceble.Just like in silkroad they sell ammunations for bitcoins and even drugs and it has a high percentage that people who is buying from silk road before is pure terrorist and drugl lords.

  • paul gatt
    2 weeks ago paul gatt

    Bitcoin is a clean currency, because it is free and unmanaged. It’s for everyone. Depending on how people feel, they will have different thoughts. It’s the freedom that makes people like it and use it. And of course, the advantages are always a bit of a hassle, which is absolutely normal, nothing is perfect. The most important thing is the way we use it. So, use bitcoin in the cleanest way.

  • cpfreeplz
    2 weeks ago cpfreeplz

    Monero or cash would be much better alternatives because they are actually anonymous unlike bitcoins which are pseudonymous. Criminals and terrorists are stupid though so they will probably use bitcoins too. Everyone uses some sort of money, there’s nothing to stop you me or a terrorist from using bitcoins.

  • ImHash
    2 weeks ago ImHash

    Terrorists trainers and exporters have access to the biggest oil reserve in the world and they’re fine selling the oil to dozens of countries worldwide in exchange of US dollar and they’re doing a great job with only using fiat and seems like every one has a completely different definition of terrorism.For instance Cuba/ Iran/ North Korea/ Syria are supporting terrorism according to Washington, and Saudi Arabia blatantly injecting money and man power with supply into various terrorist organizations around the world and they even are allies with US.It makes me think, which one is true?Also it makes me to believe in bitcoin knowing those countries can do whatever they want to do without ever using bitcoin, I believe bitcoin is not yet big enough to worth trying it with hundreds of billion dollars to support terrorism.Unless of course all the mining pools are in bed with ISIS and other terrorist organizations/ states which I really doubt it, there is no direct evidence of such a bold claim.

  • coynedterm
    2 weeks ago coynedterm

    Quote from: Doofus on April 06, 2017, 05:34:27 AM
    On March 8th, Cheollima Civil Defense(CCD) released a video on its website claiming:” Han Sol, the son of Kim Jong Nam, and two other family members were met quickly and relocated to safety. “ And they receive bitcoin for financial support. This is something nice to do. BUt what if bitcoin be used to support some bad organizations, even terrorists? Is this already happening?  What i am worrying is if bitcoin be widely used for bad things, negative news would be all over and bitcoin price will drop. It will lead to tougher regulation. Do u think world leaders are willing to kill btc to make sure they can fight terrirists?
    Here you are saying this because you are newbie and don’t understand well that how does bitcoin help and bitcoin I’d available to use for everywhere and by everyone , so here it is just simple thing the terrorist can use the bitcoin for illegal purpose but here one and only one . who can can stop the bad use of the bitcoin , these are we ( bitcoiners) .We need that we should not made deals with those persons. Who are totally unknown and doubtful and don’t want reveal Thier identity .In this way we can stop the illegal use of bitcoin , overall everyone is free to use like the normal.fiat money in any country that is not an illegal thing .

  • Harlot
    2 weeks ago Harlot

    I don’t think that Bitcoin can be link strongly to Terrorism it is a wide range. The terrorist in the first place have more greater means to Fund there operations outside Bitcoin of course. From asking ransoms to captive foreigners and other demands that can be met by rich families to governments I think Bitcoin only comes to second. Also how can a currency support something? It is always up to the user of the currency on which he/she decide to use it. And I think that anything that can be used online wants to be avoided by the terrorist because they know it is monitored by the government.

  • radjie
    2 weeks ago radjie

    I think not, because bitcoin is a technological development which is a digital currency that is issued by developed countries for other needs such as for buying and selling businesses use the Internet network

  • OrangeII
    2 weeks ago OrangeII

    Quote from: paul gatt on April 09, 2017, 02:22:13 AM
    Bitcoin is a clean currency, because it is free and unmanaged. It’s for everyone. Depending on how people feel, they will have different thoughts. It’s the freedom that makes people like it and use it. And of course, the advantages are always a bit of a hassle, which is absolutely normal, nothing is perfect. The most important thing is the way we use it. So, use bitcoin in the cleanest way.
    you’re right, bitcoin has been formed dala, very good shape, and it would be perfect if used for good. but, there is no limit to the use bitcoin bitcoin users they have. even bitcoin is also often used for illegal transactions. perhaps, some terrorists are also using bitcoin to conduct transactions

  • hajimasan
    2 weeks ago hajimasan

    Quote from: Doofus on April 06, 2017, 05:34:27 AM
    On March 8th, Cheollima Civil Defense(CCD) released a video on its website claiming:” Han Sol, the son of Kim Jong Nam, and two other family members were met quickly and relocated to safety. “ And they receive bitcoin for financial support. This is something nice to do. BUt what if bitcoin be used to support some bad organizations, even terrorists? Is this already happening?  What i am worrying is if bitcoin be widely used for bad things, negative news would be all over and bitcoin price will drop. It will lead to tougher regulation. Do u think world leaders are willing to kill btc to make sure they can fight terrirists?
    This is totally stupid thing that we are thinking that bitcoin is restricted to use by the particular categories of the people , here the bitcoin is itself a thing which is available to use by any one and anytime without restrictions , so here we can say the bitcoin is increasing illegal activities or supporting terrorists .Here we have the duty to not to use the bitcoin buy sell with the terrorist Because through the good honest people they can use bitcoin otherwise they will use bitcoin for bad things purpose .

  • YuginKadoya
    2 weeks ago YuginKadoya

    Quote from: radjie on April 09, 2017, 05:44:52 AM
    I think not, because bitcoin is a technological development which is a digital currency that is issued by developed countries for other needs such as for buying and selling businesses use the Internet network

    Well everything can surely happen and when it is in the internet I mean everyone can surely access the World Wide web and everything I think they can accumulate bitcoin, we can possibly know what they are trying to do to bitcoin but yeah bitcoin is too flexible certainly even evil doers can have their hands and use it for illegal ways!

  • n2004al
    2 weeks ago n2004al

    Quote from: Doofus on April 06, 2017, 05:34:27 AM
    On March 8th, Cheollima Civil Defense(CCD) released a video on its website claiming:” Han Sol, the son of Kim Jong Nam, and two other family members were met quickly and relocated to safety. “ And they receive bitcoin for financial support. This is something nice to do. BUt what if bitcoin be used to support some bad organizations, even terrorists? Is this already happening?  What i am worrying is if bitcoin be widely used for bad things, negative news would be all over and bitcoin price will drop. It will lead to tougher regulation. Do u think world leaders are willing to kill btc to make sure they can fight terrirists?

    First bitcoin was used before by the terrorists and for this was mentioned by several authorities in various moments. Second this doesn’t mean nothing. Bitcoin is money like the other money and as such is normal that can be used for every purpose that money serve. Telling that bitcoin has fault in such cases mean to tell that euros, us dollars etc has foult too. Because even this money are used pour such aims.

  • taxmanmt5
    2 weeks ago taxmanmt5

    Quote from: OrangeII on April 09, 2017, 05:53:13 AM

    Quote from: paul gatt on April 09, 2017, 02:22:13 AM
    Bitcoin is a clean currency, because it is free and unmanaged. It’s for everyone. Depending on how people feel, they will have different thoughts. It’s the freedom that makes people like it and use it. And of course, the advantages are always a bit of a hassle, which is absolutely normal, nothing is perfect. The most important thing is the way we use it. So, use bitcoin in the cleanest way.
    you’re right, bitcoin has been formed dala, very good shape, and it would be perfect if used for good. but, there is no limit to the use bitcoin bitcoin users they have. even bitcoin is also often used for illegal transactions. perhaps, some terrorists are also using bitcoin to conduct transactions
    Bitcoin can be used for good and bad, and it will support both type of peoples and usage. You can give donation with bitcoins and hide your identity or you can use bitcoins to buy explosive weapons and still hide your identity.

  • SvenBomvolen
    2 weeks ago SvenBomvolen

    Quote from: taxmanmt5 on April 09, 2017, 07:20:44 AM

    Quote from: OrangeII on April 09, 2017, 05:53:13 AM

    Quote from: paul gatt on April 09, 2017, 02:22:13 AM
    Bitcoin is a clean currency, because it is free and unmanaged. It’s for everyone. Depending on how people feel, they will have different thoughts. It’s the freedom that makes people like it and use it. And of course, the advantages are always a bit of a hassle, which is absolutely normal, nothing is perfect. The most important thing is the way we use it. So, use bitcoin in the cleanest way.
    you’re right, bitcoin has been formed dala, very good shape, and it would be perfect if used for good. but, there is no limit to the use bitcoin bitcoin users they have. even bitcoin is also often used for illegal transactions. perhaps, some terrorists are also using bitcoin to conduct transactions
    Bitcoin can be used for good and bad, and it will support both type of peoples and usage. You can give donation with bitcoins and hide your identity or you can use bitcoins to buy explosive weapons and still hide your identity.
    Hided indentity is the main factor in such transactions where money are going to some illegal things as terrorism. You are totally right that bitcoin can be used as for good as for bad, couse no one will know what for this money are going exactly.

  • TheGodFather
    2 weeks ago TheGodFather

    Quote from: Doofus on April 06, 2017, 05:34:27 AM
    On March 8th, Cheollima Civil Defense(CCD) released a video on its website claiming:” Han Sol, the son of Kim Jong Nam, and two other family members were met quickly and relocated to safety. “ And they receive bitcoin for financial support. This is something nice to do. BUt what if bitcoin be used to support some bad organizations, even terrorists? Is this already happening?  What i am worrying is if bitcoin be widely used for bad things, negative news would be all over and bitcoin price will drop. It will lead to tougher regulation. Do u think world leaders are willing to kill btc to make sure they can fight terrirists?
    Bitcoin is anonymous. Thats why deep web is using it to pay or using it to transact with each other. Mostly bitcoin is used to buy Guns, Ammos, Drugs and other stuffs related to. And I think yes. Bitcoin is supporting the terrorists. As we can see now, Bitcoin is widely used online and offline as well.

  • skorupi17
    2 weeks ago skorupi17

    Quote from: Doofus on April 06, 2017, 05:34:27 AM
    On March 8th, Cheollima Civil Defense(CCD) released a video on its website claiming:” Han Sol, the son of Kim Jong Nam, and two other family members were met quickly and relocated to safety. “ And they receive bitcoin for financial support. This is something nice to do. BUt what if bitcoin be used to support some bad organizations, even terrorists? Is this already happening?  What i am worrying is if bitcoin be widely used for bad things, negative news would be all over and bitcoin price will drop. It will lead to tougher regulation. Do u think world leaders are willing to kill btc to make sure they can fight terrirists?

    Do not worry on how people are using bitcoin. Does any news channel even reported negative news about fiat money at all? Of course not! Bitcoin is not new in concept when you compare it with the fiat money. People use fiat money for drugs, prostitution, crimes, terrorism and does that make the fiat bad? And today people use bitcoin for drugs, prostitution, crimes, terrorism and does that make the bitcoin bad? A very big NO

  • Daniel91
    2 weeks ago Daniel91

    It’s already outdated question, I’m afraid.We already know many examples where drug dealers used dark web to order drugs and bitcoin for payment.After all, bitcoin have  great advantages for terrorists.Anonymity, security, no government control, fast transactions etc.So, I’m sure that they are already using bitcoin, the same as they are using social medias in order to find new followers.

  • chickenado
    2 weeks ago chickenado

    Bitcoun is already used to support terrorist. Terrorist, drug dealers, killers, gun dealers and many bad people used this as a mode of payment because this is tue safest mode of payment in our world. This is the reason why some country didn’t accept bitcoin.

  • YuginKadoya
    2 weeks ago YuginKadoya

    Quote from: Daniel91 on April 09, 2017, 03:32:43 PM
    It’s already outdated question, I’m afraid.We already know many examples where drug dealers used dark web to order drugs and bitcoin for payment.After all, bitcoin have  great advantages for terrorists.Anonymity, security, no government control, fast transactions etc.So, I’m sure that they are already using bitcoin, the same as they are using social medias in order to find new followers.

    Yup! It is simply a literal thing to know all of this especially when you know very well how bitcoins transaction works and I think this kind of a question was very perfect for newbies that are still starting their way up to the ladder of bitcoin ranks, but we can not blame them for being like this and besides we are the ones who should really understand their thoughts for asking this.

  • iqlimasyadiqa
    2 weeks ago iqlimasyadiqa

    Quote from: chickenado on April 09, 2017, 03:41:53 PM
    Bitcoun is already used to support terrorist. Terrorist, drug dealers, killers, gun dealers and many bad people used this as a mode of payment because this is tue safest mode of payment in our world. This is the reason why some country didn’t accept bitcoin.
    one of the things that is very negative. they use bitcoin for crime. for me bitcoin is a medium that should be used with care. use and also a poor understanding could make things chaotic. we need to learn more, because in every technology there must be a case that tarnished its function.

  • pinkpanther03
    2 weeks ago pinkpanther03

    Quote from: bitbob82 on April 08, 2017, 06:40:24 PM

    Quote from: megynacuna on April 08, 2017, 01:33:04 PM
    It can be used just like other currencies but the advantages of Bitcoin makes it more easier for these deviants to adopt it as their main stream currency as it pays worldwide without any rigid verifications.
    yes that is very right to say that bitcoin is making it more easy to use bitcoin in more convenient way. in fact bitcoin is providing such facilities which are making our life more easier.
    Agreed on that dude, though we know all that  bitcoin can be use for legal and illegal, but because bitcoin is not 100% anonymous it can be trace if ever there is something fishy going on in the transaction. that’s only my ideas about it, feel free to correct me if I’m wrong.

  • AngelSky
    2 weeks ago AngelSky

    Quote from: chickenado on April 09, 2017, 03:41:53 PM
    Bitcoun is already used to support terrorist. Terrorist, drug dealers, killers, gun dealers and many bad people used this as a mode of payment because this is tue safest mode of payment in our world. This is the reason why some country didn’t accept bitcoin.

    Don’t be like a troller. Are you personally aware that bitcoin is been involved in terrorism. I think you drug dealer using bitcoin as payment for your deals. Reason why Government doesn’t accept bitcoin, they know if btc arises as ledger for treasure for the Government. Then no one do corruption. This is the true fact. People troller like you always take bitcoin to wrong show in public. 

  • Stedsm
    2 weeks ago Stedsm

    Quote from: AngelSky on April 09, 2017, 04:05:52 PM

    Quote from: chickenado on April 09, 2017, 03:41:53 PM
    Bitcoun is already used to support terrorist. Terrorist, drug dealers, killers, gun dealers and many bad people used this as a mode of payment because this is tue safest mode of payment in our world. This is the reason why some country didn’t accept bitcoin.

    Don’t be like a troller. Are you personally aware that bitcoin is been involved in terrorism. I think you drug dealer using bitcoin as payment for your deals. Reason why Government doesn’t accept bitcoin, they know if btc arises as ledger for treasure for the Government. Then no one do corruption. This is the true fact. People troller like you always take bitcoin to wrong show in public. 

    The guy didn’t troll actually, but talked facts that, if ignored will get Bitcoins to nowhere but to dark. You must be knowing dark markets and other such black marketing concepts where Bitcoins are being used. You know some real Bitcoin cases that have terrorism as well as cyber crime included? There was a pharmaceutical company who was selling their drugs as well as other things in exchange of Bitcoins through various exchanges, and the other case here was of terrorists asking for extortion money in Bitcoins.

  • Soul Reaper
    2 weeks ago Soul Reaper

    Quote from: Amph on April 06, 2017, 05:39:39 AM
    that doesn’t make bitcoin bad, everyone is free to use bitcoin, and you can’t deny them no matter what they are or from where they come from, this is also part of the decentralizationwhat matter is that they don’t see bitcoin as a bad tool only because bad guys are using it, the same terrorists can easily use cash or electronic payment, therefore the problem are terrorist not what they use
    Exactly that’s the point I think is right.Even though if bitcoin is used by terrorists,How can it be considered as a bad form of currency.This way you can say that if terrorists use dollars,Than even dollars is a bad currency.Which I think most of you are against.So it doesn’t really matter if terrorists use it or not.It is the currency of the internet and it’s open for all.

  • cellard
    2 weeks ago cellard

    Ban fiat money, ban weapons, ban trucks, ban knifes, ban cars, ban going out of your bedroom, ban everything. Everything is a risk of terrorists exploiting it and killing innocents.

  • buyinbtc
    2 weeks ago buyinbtc

    Quote from: chickenado on April 09, 2017, 03:41:53 PM
    Bitcoun is already used to support terrorist. Terrorist, drug dealers, killers, gun dealers and many bad people used this as a mode of payment because this is tue safest mode of payment in our world. This is the reason why some country didn’t accept bitcoin.

    Some countries didn’t accept or tried to ban bitcoin, but i am sure that people still used bitcoins, just for, of course, good things not bad like these. I think that not if all these bad things, bitcoin wouldn’t be that expensive now, as bitcoin used to be very good payment option in black markets, because nobody can track who bought or who sold products when paying with bitcoins.

  • Osarman
    2 weeks ago Osarman

    Quote from: chickenado on April 09, 2017, 03:41:53 PM
    Bitcoun is already used to support terrorist. Terrorist, drug dealers, killers, gun dealers and many bad people used this as a mode of payment because this is tue safest mode of payment in our world. This is the reason why some country didn’t accept bitcoin.
    i do not think that its the Aim of bitcoin because bitcoin is just made for online transaction and bitcoin is just a digital currency and i think bitcoin is the safest way to secure your money.

  • guoyu78
    2 weeks ago guoyu78

    Quote from: Osarman on April 09, 2017, 09:35:12 PM

    Quote from: chickenado on April 09, 2017, 03:41:53 PM
    Bitcoun is already used to support terrorist. Terrorist, drug dealers, killers, gun dealers and many bad people used this as a mode of payment because this is tue safest mode of payment in our world. This is the reason why some country didn’t accept bitcoin.
    i do not think that its the Aim of bitcoin because bitcoin is just made for online transaction and bitcoin is just a digital currency and i think bitcoin is the safest way to secure your money.
    i agree with you that bitcoin is digital currency and a lot of people feel safe and secure with bitcoin and they using bitcoin for online shopping and maximum people are using bitcoin as investment.

  • MyIdeas
    2 weeks ago MyIdeas

    I do not think that this thing is going further with bitcoin. Bitcoin is mostly created for the use of internet to support the users of internet to transact their money to place of the world without any issue and terrorist will not longer get benefit from it.

  • chichigirl
    2 weeks ago chichigirl

    Yes terrorist might get funds in their btc addresses but it will hard for them to encash, thus bitcoin is very transparent. Their transactions will be traceable thru blockchain explorers.

  • hikedoon
    2 weeks ago hikedoon

    No.Stop posting stupid questions.

  • Doofus
    2 weeks ago Doofus

    On March 8th, Cheollima Civil Defense(CCD) released a video on its website claiming:” Han Sol, the son of Kim Jong Nam, and two other family members were met quickly and relocated to safety. “ And they receive bitcoin for financial support. This is something nice to do. BUt what if bitcoin be used to support some bad organizations, even terrorists? Is this already happening?  What i am worrying is if bitcoin be widely used for bad things, negative news would be all over and bitcoin price will drop. It will lead to tougher regulation. Do u think world leaders are willing to kill btc to make sure they can fight terrirists?

  • Iranus
    2 weeks ago Iranus

    Quote from: Pursuer on April 06, 2017, 08:07:02 AM

    Quote from: Doofus on April 06, 2017, 05:34:27 AM
    On March 8th, Cheollima Civil Defense(CCD) released a video on its website claiming:” Han Sol, the son of Kim Jong Nam, and two other family members were met quickly and relocated to safety. “ And they receive bitcoin for financial support. This is something nice to do. BUt what if bitcoin be used to support some bad organizations, even terrorists? Is this already happening?

    throwing in random names doesn’t make the story more believable and no, I assure you that there is no idiot in the whole world that is going to choose bitcoin (with 100% public, open to the whole world transactions) over easy fiat/cash such as using USD which is 100% anonymous, non-traceable and acceptable everywhere in the whole world.p.s. your username seems to be matching the kind of topics you create in this forum.
    Bitcoin isn’t 100% public and USD isn’t 100% anonymous.  Bitcoin transactions are public from the blockchain but they’re pseudonymous as addresses are hard to link to individuals.  While Bitcoin isn’t anonymous and those who don’t take very careful precautions can be caught, it’s a lot more anonymous than digital fiat (e.g. bank transfer) so if you’re doing anything online, Bitcoin is the best choice since a lot of criminals already accept it.Even cash USD, while having separate purposes to Bitcoin, isn’t 100% anonymous.  Also, if you think that USD is accepted everywhere, you’re pretty arrogant about how national currencies work.

  • Doofus
    2 weeks ago Doofus

    Quote from: boyptc on April 06, 2017, 05:56:58 AM

    Quote from: Doofus on April 06, 2017, 05:34:27 AM
    On March 8th, Cheollima Civil Defense(CCD) released a video on its website claiming:” Han Sol, the son of Kim Jong Nam, and two other family members were met quickly and relocated to safety. “ And they receive bitcoin for financial support. This is something nice to do. BUt what if bitcoin be used to support some bad organizations, even terrorists? Is this already happening?

    Do you have any proof for this news? I want to read the whole article but if this is for real. It doesn’t matter if they are going to use bitcoin for supporting terrorists. How about fiat money, dollars and everything that does have value? They are using it for supporting those people and it’s up to them if they will use it for good or bad.
    here is the article you r asking for. i guess the organizaiton has already transfered the bitcoin they received. http://news.8btc.com/bitcoin-plays-a-role-in-humanitarian-assistance

  • RedX
    2 weeks ago RedX

    Yes I think this is already happening because bitcoin has many transactions on deepweb where all illegal things are going on. Bitcoin or any currency  can be used whether its good or bad so I think the right question should be is how do we avoid bitcoin getting used by terrorists.

  • Cindy23
    2 weeks ago Cindy23

    Have u ever worried that if u support some mystical organizations ur info will be leaked? Maybe now u can use bitcoins. [/b]This is what Cheollima Civil Defense(CCD) is doing to help Han Sol, son of the dead Kim Jong Nam. Now CCD has received 2.7 bitcoins. some chinese netizens joked that that’s coz he looks so much better than his uncle Kim-Jong-un.  i wonder WHERE r those donors from? China? American? Russia? South Korea? Read more about this story:http://news.8btc.com/bitcoin-plays-a-role-in-humanitarian-assistance

  • chickenado
    2 weeks ago chickenado

    Quote from: AngelSky on April 09, 2017, 04:05:52 PM

    Quote from: chickenado on April 09, 2017, 03:41:53 PM
    Bitcoun is already used to support terrorist. Terrorist, drug dealers, killers, gun dealers and many bad people used this as a mode of payment because this is tue safest mode of payment in our world. This is the reason why some country didn’t accept bitcoin.

    Don’t be like a troller. Are you personally aware that bitcoin is been involved in terrorism. I think you drug dealer using bitcoin as payment for your deals. Reason why Government doesn’t accept bitcoin, they know if btc arises as ledger for treasure for the Government. Then no one do corruption. This is the true fact. People troller like you always take bitcoin to wrong show in public. 

    I’m not a troller buddy, I’m just saying/ posting the things that I know, And I want to share it to other bitcoin forum members. They use bitcoin for they’re safety, terrorist not using it just because government don’t use it, dont accept it.

  • FlightyPouch
    2 weeks ago FlightyPouch

    Quote from: bitbob82 on April 10, 2017, 08:11:47 PM

    Quote from: Tribizz on April 10, 2017, 01:50:06 PM
    Sure, everything has it good side and bad side but mostly we all know its great intension to the world
    yes that is very right everything has its good and bad sides bitcoin can be use for both depending one the people who are using it. but i think yet majority of people are using it for good deeds.

    Bitcoin has nothing to do with terrorists activities. And if it used by them, money laundering and stuff, I think bitcoin is making a progress and bitcoin is used even for a terrorist. Staoshi Nakamoto aims a currency that can be used by many people everywhere and anywhere in the internet. Saying that they use it, means that they like bitcoin because of its transaction features.

  • GreenBits
    2 weeks ago GreenBits

    Quote from: krisnt80 on April 11, 2017, 03:21:12 PM
    Bitcoin donations or crypto currencies wont make any difference, nowadays big donations are made to support terrorists, and nothing happens at all, banks dont care what the money is for as long they get their fee, easy as that. Bitcoin is a currencie that can be used for both sides, and there is no way to prevent the abuse of any of them. I doubt terrorists will risk their money over bitcoin, since they can loose money doing such, and they do have their costs.

    LOL I have to agree, so much illicit money is moved through the traditional financial system that bitcoin could never compete,.just as a function of scale. Bitcoin might be viable for money ttansfer, if there is liquidity. But buying anything that would fund a meaningful war effort, besides food, would be pretty difficult as no one really accepts bitcoin at the moment. Also, funding terrorism isn’t a small dollar exercise; to convert the btc to fiat to actually buy stuff would probably set off AML/KYC flags at most legitimate banks.

  • mrcash02
    2 weeks ago mrcash02

    Quote from: chickenado on Today at 03:31:28 AM

    Quote from: AngelSky on April 09, 2017, 04:05:52 PM

    Quote from: chickenado on April 09, 2017, 03:41:53 PM
    Bitcoun is already used to support terrorist. Terrorist, drug dealers, killers, gun dealers and many bad people used this as a mode of payment because this is tue safest mode of payment in our world. This is the reason why some country didn’t accept bitcoin.

    Don’t be like a troller. Are you personally aware that bitcoin is been involved in terrorism. I think you drug dealer using bitcoin as payment for your deals. Reason why Government doesn’t accept bitcoin, they know if btc arises as ledger for treasure for the Government. Then no one do corruption. This is the true fact. People troller like you always take bitcoin to wrong show in public. 

    I’m not a troller buddy, I’m just saying/ posting the things that I know, And I want to share it to other bitcoin forum members. They use bitcoin for they’re safety, terrorist not using it just because government don’t use it, dont accept it.

    I agree with you. Criminal groups are already using Bitcoin. It can help terrorist groups to receive donations from their supporters as the currency is pseudo anonymous and not very tracked yet as there are a few number of people in the world using Bitcoins.We can’t be blind about it, Bitcoin is surely good and helpful, but not only for the good people of this planet, but for all, including the terrorists, the worse disease of our time.

  • Coin_trader
    2 days ago Coin_trader

    yes bitcoin can be use to support terrorism and not only terrorism but anything illegal can be supported since it is anonymous and every transaction can not be trace it can easily support extremist activities, much easier now that the bitcoin started to accepts in some establishments as payment for purchasing something.

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